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  • No, the joke you’re making is about Anonymous, and the authorities trying to find the leader of them.

    Antifa (Antifaschistische Aktion, Anti Fascism) on the other has and will periodically form into local chapters (usually out of members of other more permanent anarchist, communist, and protest groups), to participate in protests, produce things like stickers or book drives, run pop-up or community libraries, events and form other organizational structures, events, or projects.

    You’re confusing temporary, and anarchistic, with not existing.

    From Wikipedia:

    The contemporary antifa movement has its roots in the West German Außerparlamentarische Opposition left-wing student movement and largely adopted the aesthetics of the first movement while being ideologically somewhat dissimilar. The first antifa groups in this tradition were founded by the Maoist Communist League in the early 1970s. From the late 1980s, West Germany’s squatter scene and left-wing autonomism movement were the main contributors to the new antifa movement and in contrast to the earlier movement had a more anarcho-communist leaning. The contemporary movement has splintered into different groups and factions, including one anti-imperialist and anti-Zionist faction and one anti-German faction who strongly oppose each other, mainly over their views on Israel.

    So yeah, antifa is a movement which does periodically have people participate in it. They’re just usually temporary and anarchistic.

    Likewise with the French Resistance, or Marquis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maquis_(World_War_II) - yes there were various groups, and they had different structures, some of which were independent detached cells, but at various points some were aided with more official supply, intel, organization, and assistance from allied forces, and required more communication and so some become more “official” due to this. So it was mixed, some completely independent, others less so.

    This is part of what makes these organizations effective, and difficult to stop. It’s not the same as them not existing… Not having set and formal national leadership, being temporary, or anarchistic, is not the same as not existing, or having no members.


  • DarkCloud@lemmy.worldtoAsklemmy@lemmy.mlWhatever happened to Antifa?
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    You got things backwards.

    The hackers known as anonymous all went their separate ways long ago, leaving 4chans anonymous to be little more than a series of social media accounts releasing videos periodically. You say “they released a statement yesterday”… Er… That’s all they do. They haven’t had any power and members with skill sets since 2008 or so.

    …and antifa do exist. Most anarchist are, or are willing to call themselves antifa. A huge number of people used black block (blocking out), and mutual aid to manage, organize, and run the Black Lives Matters riots, and the Portland Corrections protests.

    Behind the Bastards had a whole series detailing it, including all the local chapters and groups that cropped up or started in that period.

    So pretty much the opposite of what you said: Anonymous doesn’t really exist beyond constantly releasing statements, and antifa does exist and will most likely take up organizational roles if any long term street protests erupt.




  • They’re libertarian business men who want little kingdoms of their own, they’re willing to play on fascism to get it, but they’re not going to be gunning people down in the streets. Especially not now interest rates are being cut by the fed, and the COVID recovery is ready to boost the economy again.

    Part of why Trump won was people calling them fascist garbage and stupid. All the people Trump makes feel good about America took offense to that.

    Trump bought into their offense by saying “I’m with you, I’m on your side, I’ll even drive the garbage truck. Hahaha”

    … and the left’s only response was to double down with “you look stupid and crazy for not automatically agreeing with us, with no discussion or appeal from us”.

    That same cycle of LEFT: “you’re a stupid crazy fascist”

    RIGHT: “no we’re playing to make ourseves feel happy and edgy, and unpopitician like”…

    LEFT: “Well that’s stupid and shouldn’t be popular”

    Went on for 8 years. That emotional interaction/cycle was on repeat.The majority didn’t give them an off ramp or even try to appeal to them, or reason with them.

    Studying fascism so you can call them fascist idiots better isn’t going to change the emotions at play, if anything it’s going to amplify them.

    No, you have to make America’s history of exploitation and greed, of racism and corruption, of international business cartels, seem good and like winning. Because that’s how he makes them feel: like it’s fun and good and winning to be an American.

    They’re saying they don’t want serious politics as usual. You’re saying “if I just call them fascist idiots better they’ll agree with me that they’re fascist idiots!”

    That’s not a discussion that’s going to resolve any different or better by perfecting your very serious and sad and angry condemnation of them.


  • You could really ask this question of anyone about anything. There will always be substantial differences between one person’s life and another. Having had children doesn’t necessarily denote that difference, even less so for men as some fathers don’t stick around and instead go live their own lives seemingly uninterrupted.

    But think of how many things people sink great amounts of time and effort into; gambling, becoming a practicing doctor, hedge fund trading, starting a charity, programming… Those people will probably all have large amounts of time devoted to those things.

    Of course there’ll be many things that don’t compare, and some that do… Then you must also factor in that it’s a trauma for some people. Some people end up not liking their children, kicking them out, disconnecting.

    Human nature is hugely variable. What’s it like being a good person? What’s it like being rich? What’s it like being homeless and a drug addict? What’s ut like being happy? What’s it like in prison? What’s it like as mayor? Or psychiatrist? Or teacher?

    What’s it like not like doing any of the things mentioned here? Well, that question, your post, is really about you, isn’t it? It’s about you asking others “what would my life be if I didn’t, or don’t have kids?”

    So, why are you asking?













  • …a “leveraged loan” usually means there’s a contract to sell a natural resource for a very cheap price (far below the market rate) if the loan isn’t paid back. That’s the “leverage” that makes the loan (usually to an otherwise poor country) “good” in the eyes of the world bank.

    So that’s what happens. If they refuse to give up the goods, they’ll get down graded, possibly refused global banking services, or put on an embargo list… And they’ll probably arrange ownership of the mine/refinery/wells and have them secured with private security forces anyways.



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